I've pointed out at least one interesting contradiction in the past, which had a mixed reception...
Particularly in Utah, there is a huge percentage of the predominantly Mormon population, which is vigorously opposed to Socialism of any sort, and yet the ideal society in Mormonism is one which is essentially Socialist in nature. I found it interesting!
Another interesting one I've noticed, but have yet to blog about is Illegal Immigration. An equally large group, perhaps mostly the same people are also vigorously opposed to Illegal Immigration, and yet a year or two ago, an LDS Church delegation of higher ups, was sent to the Utah State Legislature to 'encourage charity towards our fellow men'. As the lead delegate said, the intent was to send a message, and that the message had been received. While not stated, the message was... The LDS Church has a large contingent of members who are illegal aliens. Legislation opposing illegal immigration and increasing enforcement would effectively destroy local congregations, and the associated income from those congregations.
The parallel/contradiction I would like to point out today actually has nothing to do with Mormonism, although again, I think it is likely the same group of Utahn's with the problem.
Before I begin... I know precious little about Football (American Grid Iron), the BCS (Bowl Championship Series) or the NCAA (National Collegiate Athletic Association). I do however, think I understand enough to see what is going on, but if I've missed any key pieces of information, please correct me...
The NCAA is an administrative organization which oversees college/university sports in the United States and Canada. From what I can tell it is not a government entity.
The BCS is an organization which was formed by 6 of the major athletic conferences in the US, and 4 of the other conferences are admitted into the series to a lesser extent. A conference is basically a collection of schools, generally in the same geographical area, but there are other factors which are applied here as well.
Basically, based on who you play and what the outcome is, and then the subjective input from various sources, football teams are ranked in the official BCS rankings. Based on how you end up ranking (and sometime revenue potential), your team may be invited to a particular Bowl Series Game, and based on the outcome of that, you may qualify for the Championship Game.
Part of the system is score based, but part is subjective. Since the original 6 conferences have the majority of the influence, often teams in those conferences will rank higher than teams who may be better on paper. The bottom line is that while the better teams usually end up on top, it's not a playoff system by any stretch of the imagination, and can often end up being rather unfair.
A classic example occurred last year. The University of Utah fielded a phenomenal team, and ended the season undefeated. They were ranked high, and invited to a bowl game, but due to how it was setup, the Championship game ended up being between 2 teams who had both suffered 1 loss during the season. I like Utah, and it was tough to see them not win, but I'm not the worlds biggest football fan, and to be completely honest, I didn't lose any sleep over it whatsoever.
Many fans however were pretty upset and started demanding that the government take action to make the series fair. Senators and Congressional representatives were written. President Obama has even offered his opinion that a fairer system needs to be sought.
Like I said before though... The BCS is not a government entity, nor is the NCAA. In addition to those facts, and while many likely consider football in a manner of equal or greater importance than religion, at the end of the day, it's a GAME!!!
Yes, it's unfair, yes, it should probably be changed, but it doesn't really affect anyone's lives.
Yet still the crowd in Utah want change, and they want the government to initiate that change to make it fair...
Health care has been a hot topic lately. I'm not going to deny that the fact that America was founded on the principles of Capitalism has helped advance health care immensely.
In an article I read some time ago, it stated that every nation needs to ration it's health care in some form. In countries with socialized systems of health care, the rationing is provided by some kind of formula and a governmental oversight board. In the US, rationing is done by money. If you have money or good insurance you can get care. If you don't, tough!
Rationing by money is a very efficient way of doing it, but it does introduce an element of unfairness... Let's say I develop cancer, but I don't have insurance or any financial reserves... I'm pretty much screwed. But lets say I'm a middle aged woman with self esteem issues and a wealthy husband... I can get my nose, boobs and stomach all fixed, and I don't have to wait or anything!!
Is that entirely fair?
Here's my take on the matter...
The BCS in unfair, and part of that is due to the fact that it's a private organization, and the stake holders have an interest in skewing things a certain way. It's legal, but it sucks if it comes out against you.
Proponents of change to the BCS recognize the power that the government has, and it's role in making things fair.
And just so you know where I stand... I'm not in favor of the government getting involved in this fight - For goodness sake people, it's a game!! Get some sponsors and start up your own series, buy more influence in the BCS or something like that... It's not going to be easy, but you can effect change if you want to!
Health care... Well, the Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson mentions "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".
As US Citizens (My apologies to my foreign readers for excluding you, but hopefully you'll see why...), we're all part of a great machine which, fueled by freedom and opportunity has helped to create a health care system which is quite excellent. Medical advances have created a opportunity to create a higher quality of life, and I would argue that as we are all part of the society which has generated this, that higher quality of life is a right to all of us.
I'm not advocating cosmetic surgery for everyone, but I do think basic preventative care, and treatment for illness and diseases should be something which each citizen should have ready access to.
Like those advocating BCS changes, I recognize that the government is probably the best body which can effect this change in a timely manner. I also recognize that by virtue of them being a democratically elected entity, they would likely create a system which is fairer than most.
There are far more facets to this, that I'm hesitant to discuss, just by virtue of the fact that this post is probably far too long already, but the interesting thing is...
Proponents of changes to the BCS, are more often than not, opposed to the Government meddling in health care. They're also generally the same people advocating that Government prevent same sex marriage, while at the same time, adamant about the government staying out of their lives and their homes, but that's a whole other topic and can of worms right there.
The LDS Church has a large contingent of members who are illegal aliens. Legislation opposing illegal immigration and increasing enforcement would effectively destroy local congregations, and the associated income from those congregations.
ReplyDeleteI was a financial clerk in a west Salt Lake ward for a few years, and I can assure you that this "associated income" brought in by illegal immigrant members is nil. Conversely, the welfare dollars spent on them is through the roof. I can't tell you how many checks I wrote out for rent, food orders, car payments, and even satellite TV for these people. Believe me, the church's motivation to keep these members in good standing is anything but financial.
Proponents of changes to the BCS, are more often than not, opposed to the Government meddling in health care. They're also generally the same people advocating that Government prevent same sex marriage, while at the same time, adamant about the government staying out of their lives and their homes, but that's a whole other topic and can of worms right there.
ReplyDeleteFirst some perspective. What is the ratio of die hard college football fans to non die hard college football fans in Utah? What percentage of die hard football fans in Utah are adamant enough about the BCS to vocalize their opinion about it? A loud minority? Yes. But a small minority nonetheless.
Second, I think it unwise to equate the average Utah sports fan (especially the average University of Utah sports fan) to the typical Utah conservative. In my experience as both a newshound and a sports fan, ain't a lot of politicos listening watching ESPN. They care about the BCS enough to want the government to step in, but how many of them are familiar with constitutional law and political theory? As long as we're making sweeping generalizations, consider that it's Utah fans that are most adamant that the government override the BCS. Walk thru that campus and just see how many LDS or conservatives you meet.
Third, Shurtleff has caught a lot of flack in conservative circles for wanting to intervene. Prominent Republicans here have offered scathing critiques of his move. Local conservative talk radio hosts like Bob Lonsberry are not on-board with this either.
So while I get your gist, I think the comparison is off-base.
Perhaps I should add, that in all opinions I've offered on my personal perception of the population of Utah. I'm basing this on those I associate with, so there is a good chance I could be off-base, but I tend to associate with a fairly wide spectrum of people at work, church and leisure, so I tend to think I have a fair good sampling of people on which to base my opinion. But that said, it's still just my opinion.
ReplyDeleteI would think too that if BYU were to end up with a lossless season and not have a shot at the BCS Championship (Not a snowballs chance of that happening this year of course!!!). You'd see a similar contingent in Blue instead of Red. I would suspect the same result from any school penalized by virtue of them not being part of the big 6. I don't think it's a Mormon thing, just a football fan thing.
On the illegal aliens... There is some separation of funds which may play into this. From my understanding, handouts to family are pulled from local fast offering donations, and when those run out, they're pulled in from other units. It's the reason that fast offering funds from Africa are sometimes sent over to Utah.
Tithing on the other hand is kept separate and it's what is used to further the growth of the Church and support the administration in SLC. I have no facts to back this up, but I would assume that most illegal immigrant families who value their membership in the Church would be faithful tithe payers, even if they accept handouts when they can't make their bills. Again, just my opinion based on my understanding of Church Policy, and several years I spent working along side some very amiable, but none-the-less illegal aliens.
I remember in high school we watched a video about illegal immigration in my American Government class...guess what state it featured?
ReplyDeleteUtah.
Koda, there are many good, active illegals in Utah. I can tell you more about my experience offline, but suffice it to say here that when illegals do pay tithing (at least in the stake I was in) it's negligible
ReplyDeleteIt's especially inconsequential when you consider the dollars from the general fund set aside for hispanic wards, the bulk of whose members are undocumented.
So they pay a bit of tithing. But does it mitigate what's spent on them for supplies, activities, youth conference, etc.? Your theory about the church's finacial interest just doesn't hold water when you do the math.
I'm willing to concede that point, that it may not be financially motivated. I think there is more to it than just do Utah Illegals pay tithing... it could be a case of small profit/quick returns + for those who send money back to Mexico, the question would be... Is that tithed here, or there. Do missionaries sent from Utah receive more missionary support. And of course it could just be a case of too much growth amongst a segment of the population which would be severely impacted if laws were to be enforced.
ReplyDeleteBut financial reasons or not, there remains a marked difference between the attitude of the COP towards illegal aliens, and the majority of members in Utah. And that was the point I was trying to make.